princessaisha90

I am having a problem , Plzz help

Date: 23 Jul 2008, 11:09 pm / Mood: confused


 



I always thought  i knew alot about Hadith and quran, and I guess it was just my concise. recently , I have been having debates (not debates, more like conversations) with someone about Islam. He is a christain syrian. I am trying to prove to him that islam is not the way he thinks to be.



 Everytime, he brings up the subject about The prophet's marriage to Aisha! This is a very controversial part, and i dont want to say anything wrong!  He keep saying how can a an almost 60 yr old man marry a young girl about the age of 9. He has a hadith to prove this where  aisha was playing in front her house when her mother call out!



وقدمت بنت الشاطئ عائشة لتحكي بنفسها ما حدث لها يوم عرسها فتقول: "جاء رسول الله بيتنا فاجتمع إليه رجال من الأنصار ونساء، فجاءتني أمي وأنا في أرجوحة بين عِذقين (أي فرعي شجرة) فأنزلتني ثم سوت شعري، ومسحت وجهي بشيء من ماء، ثم أقبلت تقودني، حتى إذا كنت عند الباب، وقفت بي حتى ذهب بعض نفسي (أي حتى اطمأنت نفسي قليلا).

ثم أدخلتني ورسول الله جالس على سرير في بيتنا، فأجلستني في حجره ... ووثب القوم والنساء فخرجوا، وبنى بي (أي دخل بي) رسول الله في بيتي [وتكمل قصتها قائلة:] كنت يومئذ ابنة تسع سنوات ..."] (نساء النبي ص).


 



2ـ وتم الزواج [أو ما يسمى بالدخلة] بعد سنتين أو 3 سنوات، أي وعمرها 8 أو 9 سنوات



 



He says how can a person do such a thing, and would i allow my daughter to marry a old man like that ???



I really need help. I am clueless of what to say =[



I need something to convince that this was normal. I even told him Aisha never ever complained about the Prophet.. and he came back at that with something.......



I need deperate help!



This is good on my part too, I am learning!!



 


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waqpac (04 Sep 2008, 10:01 am):
Assalam Allikum,

Very late i know

but this Link will help u in future or may be when anybody polls the same question... This will help to understand...

Have a look...
http://www.muhaddith.org/IslamicVideos/ProphetMuhammadAishaMarriage.html




Pixie (08 Aug 2008, 3:49 pm):
Al salamu alaykom wa rahmatu Allah wa barakatoh. I may b late but i thought i should say this anyway. Prophet Muhammad PBUH indeed married Aisha at an early age, but this was the tradition at that time, just like in 17th-century England, girls married at the age of 16, although this is not acceptable now. Moreover, girls living in hot place become physically mature and ready for marriage at an earlier age than in other places, and if u search all of the Prophet's wives history, u'll find that Safeyya before converting to Islam was a Jew, and got married to a Jewish poet at the age of 11.
I hope u find this helpful, but allow me to remind u of sth; some ppl would never stop arguing wz u in ur religion, although deep inside they know u're right.
princessaisha90 (24 Jul 2008, 8:49 pm):
Jaazaakal laahu Khairan everyone!! I really appreciate you guys taking the time to stop by, and writing down comments! Thnks ! May Allah Increase our knowledge~

One thing, I am not a convert. I was born muslim! But I have only realized the reality of life recently, so every day i strive to be the best muslim i could possibly be ..i do have alot of downfalls.


Also, i am not a very good debater, But i feel guilty when a person tries to tell me something that i believe is wrong, and  i try to argue to win.. Usually i end up losing lol ... so I came here for help  

anywho, i wish i had the time to reply to each one of you in person.. Inshallah sooner or later , I will !

Salaaam Aleykum wr wb
khan_cs (24 Jul 2008, 5:17 am):
Assalamualaikum sister.

please dont get your self into any discussion about which you are not having proper knowledge. make sure what you talk you know and its authentic. else you will get into trouble. i stay with a christian family and i know how they trap brothers and sisters inshaallah you can find beautiful answer for this in the seerah of the prophet(sas).

--------------------- please find the little text from the seerah book --------------------------
Reference : Book Name :- The sealed nectar, Chapter :- The Prophetic Household

please find this book or find prophet seerah and read the chapter inshaallah it will be helpful.

Whosoever meditates on the life of the Messenger of Allâh (Peace be upon him), will conceive that
his marriage to this great number of women in the late years of his lifetime, after he had almost
spent thirty years of his best days of youth sufficing himself to one old wife— Khadijah and later on
to Sawdah, was in no way an overwhelming lustful desire to be satisfied through such a number of
wives. These marriages were in fact motivated by aims and purposes much more glorious and
greater than what normal marriages usually aim at.

The tendency of the Messenger of Allâh (Peace be upon him) towards establishing a relationship by
marriage with both Abu Bakr and ‘Umar and his marriage to ‘Aishah and Hafsah — and getting his
daughter Fatimah married to ‘Ali bin Abi Talib, and the marriage of his two daughters, Ruqaiyah and
Umm Kulthum to ‘Uthman — indicate clearly that he aimed at confirming the relationship among the
four men — whose sacrifices and great achievements in the cause of Islam are well-known.
Besides this, there was that tradition of the Arabs to honour the in-law relations.
khan_cs (24 Jul 2008, 5:16 am):
For them a son or
a daughter-in-law was a means by which they sought the consolidation of relationship and affection
with various phratries. Hostility and fights against alliances and affinities would bring an
unforgettable shame, disgrace and degradation to them.
By marrying the Mothers of believers, the Prophet (Peace be upon him) wanted to demolish or break
down the Arab tribes’ enmity to Islam and extinguish their intense hatred. Umm Salamah was from
Bani Makhzum — the clan of Abu Jahl and Khalid bin Al-Waleed. Her marriage to the Messenger of
Allâh (Peace be upon him) produced good results. Khalid’s deliberately undecisive attitude at Uhud

— for instance — was due to the Messenger’s marriage to Umm Salamah. Khalid went even further
than that, in a short time he willingly became a keen obedient Muslim.
After the Messenger of Allâh’s marriage to Umm Habibah, Abu Sufyan, her father, did not encounter
him with any sort of hostility. Similarly his marriage to Juwairiyah and Safiyah made the two tribes
stop all sorts of provocation, aggression or hostility against Islam. Better still, Juwairiyah, herself,
was one of the greatest sources of blessing to her own people. On the occasion of her marriage to
the Prophet (Peace be upon him), his Companions set a hundred families of her people free. They
said: “It is for their affinity with the Messenger of Allâh (Peace be upon him).” No need to say what
great good impression this gratitude had on everybody’s soul. One of the greatest motives of all is
Allâh’s bidding his Prophet to educate and purify the souls of people who had known nothing
whatsoever about courtesy, education and culture. He had to teach them to comply with the
necessities of civilization and to contribute to the solidification and the establishment of a new
Islam
khan_cs (24 Jul 2008, 5:16 am):
An essential fundamental rule of the Muslim society is to prohibit mixing of men and women.
Providing direct education for women, though highly compelling, is impossible in the light of this
Islamic norm. Therefore, the Prophet (Peace be upon him) had to select some women of different
ages and talents, and indoctrinate them systematically in order to educate she-bedouins and
townswomen, old and young, and thus furnish them with the instruments of propagating the true
faith. The Mothers of believers [i.e. wives of the Prophet (Peace be upon him)] were in such a
convenient position that they could convey the state of the Prophet (Peace be upon him) and his
affairs to people (men and women). Being educated and taught the teachings and rules of Islam, his
wives, especially those who outlived him, played a very important role in conveying Prophetic
traditions Ahadith to the Muslims. ‘Aishah, for instance, related a large number of the Prophet’s
deeds and statements.
meggie (24 Jul 2008, 4:52 am):
I agree with Farouq. I actually have some hadiths that state she was probably at least 15 when she married the prophet but I favorited it on my other computer. I'm sleeping over at my sister's house.
Maryamc (24 Jul 2008, 3:35 am):

As salaamu alaikum my sister in faith,

Age and religion are 2 different things. Age is just a number.  First I want to speak about the confusion of the non muslim's issue with who  Prophet Muhammad(saw), married.  The people of today, judge a 7th century lifestyle with a 21st century standard, or rule.  During that era/time the girls of the desert region reach their puberty at an early age. Prophet Muhammad(saw) married Ayesha on the request of her father, Abu Bakr. Prophet Muhammad(saw) was also fulfilling a commandment of Allah, which is to marry those who are ready to marry, as soon as they are ready.  Ayesha was mature enough for marriage, and  Ayesha was one of the most compatible wives of the prophet. Ayesha and her parents were very pleased with the marriage. So their marriage was not an act of harrassment, or violation of her innocence, but it was normal. If this christian syrian thinks that a prophet of god should not have a young wife, then he should also reject/not accept an 86 year old prophet of god that slept with a young maiden of his own wife without marrying her, as the Bible says (Genesis 16:1-16. Of course we as muslims honor Prophet Ibrahim(AS) and we respect his marriage to Hajar.  The enemies of islam are always making false accusations to discredit islam and Prophet Muhammad(saw). So please be strong, and do not allow this person to confuse you by way of attacking the character of our beloved Prophet Muhammad(saw). wassalaamu alaikum your sister in Islam

Mais_Nichole (24 Jul 2008, 1:53 am):

Ah....Masha'Allah, I didn't see that you are a new Muslim!!!!

I found that it's easier to wait and not debate until we learn a lot about the deen. And even then, if we don't do extra worship then our faith starts to wear out almost and we need to replenish it. It needs maintenance just like anything else so it might be better to wait for a little Insha'Allah.

Farouqnimer (24 Jul 2008, 1:48 am):

Few points.

1.  you are still a new Muslim, so don't waste your time debating with others, especially Christian Arabs.

With regards to the marriage, the strongest argument against that fool is

a.  Not a single one of his contemporary enemies EVER criticized this marriage, although they called him many other bad names.

b.  At age 6, a woman's brain is still very fresh and can memorize and absorb an amount of information older men and women can't do. We know that for fact (that's why kids learn language very quickly compared to us elders.)

c.  The prophet's first marriage was to a woman 15 years older than him, who already was married before ( I think twice if not mistaken).  After 25 years of marriage, she died so he spent two years single out of respect to her then married a woman around the age of 80.  Again, there can't be lust there.

d.  If I'm not mistaken, 'aesha was the only virgin of all his wives, so no way was he seaking lust especially after a long experience with women.

e.  the prophet was a very powerful man and he could've married the most beautiful young virgin of Arabia if he wanted to and no body of his companions would dare questioning him in a critical way, but he didn't which proves that he wasn't seeking sexual lust.

f.  Some women get puberty as young as 9 especially in a desert atmosphere, and any woman who hits puberty has sexual desires.

Shay (24 Jul 2008, 1:05 am):
sorry I do believe moho is right she was married at 6 
Shay (24 Jul 2008, 1:03 am):

         The Prophet (saws) married her at 9 and Aisha continued living in her fathers house (which the father, Abu Bakr was the Prophet's (saws) best friend) Aisha was 12 and had reached sexual maturity.  She was not touched in any way by the Prophet (saws) until this time.   At the time being married at 12 to an older man was completely acceptable. 

        AstigfurAllah for what I am about to write,  but the christians point their fingers at us, what about what the bible says?   Christianity teaches that  Abraham (Ibrahim) married his half sister by his father. Any christian will tell you that is sinful, yet it is in their own book, also David (Daud) slept with and impregnated a soldiers wife after he had looked at her lustfully as she was taking a bath on her roof.  David had his loyal soldier killed so he could marry the soldier's wife and try to make the pregnancy look legitimate. That story is in the Bible "2 Samuel 11:1-27"  It's so sad that the only thing others can bring up is Aisha, when their own book contains so much in it that is wrong, not just incorrect as Islam teaches us but they judge us yet say that its ok what happens in the bible yet we are the ones who are sinners.   

May Allah forgive and bless all of our sins, inshaAllah their eyes will open and will come to embrace Allah

 

 

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