Assalam alaykum.
I wish you with all my heart a blessed Eid. May Allah make your days better.
S

As Salamu Aliekum Dear Respected Sister in Islam! ,



MashAllah, you have a really nice profile here. I really enjoyed going through it, Alhamdulilah. Interesting. Since it's Eid tomorrow, I don't have much time to comment further. By the way ...





Al Tahir.

aww so nice to hear from you alhamdulilah i am very well thank you and i hope the same to you inshallah howz your ramdan been so far

hey salaam is been ages aye lol ramdan mubrak inshallah i hope that you are in the best of health and imaan and aslo hope thatyour family are good. how you doing

Actually my major in college is liberal arts with a concentration in political science. I intend to pursue Islamic studies in Egypt after I graduate, though (insha'allah). 

The other day I bought Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics and Confucius' Analytics, which I want to read after I finish re-reading Al-Ghazali's Alchemy of Happiness.  I've made a resolution to read and finish nearly all of the books I own, since I bought some of them four or more years ago and still haven't touched them.

Mubarak to you too!  Just a tip:  you might want to delete that picture of yourself you posted before your inbox is crammed with friend requests, lol.

You're a few giant steps ahead of me right now.  I'm still living at home and my next semester doesn't start until spring.  Bah.  I'm contemplating taking courses at Sunnipath, though.  I've also really gotten into philosophy.  It's just so interesting.

By the way, I added you, but you never show up on MSN.

Salaam!

How are you doing?  What's new?

Wa Alaykum Salam, I am fine, Alhamdulillah, how are you? I am glad you liked my comments. I get frustrated when I think I make interesting comments and no-one acknowledges them, thank you for acknowledging :).

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......our origins overtly points out the superstitions located within the text. Again, I realize that this may not be an adequete answer as of now, but once I finish writing my book, you'll have a clear picture of what I'm saying. (Unless ofcourse my opinion changes before then and I end up not writing it)

I must agree with you that we are diverting from the original topic and have instead inherited a new topic to debate upon. Thus is the art of an honest discussion.

Hi Hannah,

I appreciate you taking the time to write a thoughtful response.

Just to clarify something, you may have misunderstood what I was saying from my previous argument, or perhaps I didn't explain it well enough. In either case, I mentioned that Abraham had his own view of God, as do many religious leaders.

There were literally hundereds, if not thousands of religious leaders around his time who preached their own view about God. Now, one can argue that all of the religious leaders in exception to Abraham were false prophets. However, that would be an opinion and not a fact, because as I mentioned before, neither you and I cannot prove or disprove anything completely.

I know I said that to be a true rational atheist, one has to also be an agnostic to some degree. But, to be an agnostic, it doesn't necessarily mean that you are a monotheist. An agnostic can believe in one or multiple gods, and an honest atheist would be open to the ideas of both. Abraham believed that there could only be one God, and that was his view, but in the past and in the present there are people who believe in the possibility of multiple gods.

In your response, you asked me:

"Do you have a source to cite about Abraham’s explanation of the universe? I would like to hear what you mean about age old superstitions, and how it his views do not fit in today’s society. I’m always interesting in hearing different points of view. I have also been thinking about what you brought up: do we really know more in present times than we did say four thousand years ago?"

I am currently writing an extremly lengthy paper, which I will turn into a book on this subject. There, I address the answer to your question in precise details. Once the paper is complete, you'll be the one of the few people among others who will get a first glance. To birefly answer your question though, what the Torah, Bible and the Quran says about our existence and

Wa.salam sis your welcome :)

Hey Hannah,

From your response, I recieved a vague understanding of what you ultimately mean by a 'true monotheist'. To elaborate, from what I understand, it seems that your defintion of God is diffrent than the definition of God in Islam, or any of the three Abrahamic religions submit. It's true that everyone's view in God is diffrent, which explains the existence of various religions. However, one's definition of God cannot overtake the definition of God of another.

For example, Abraham, as you suggest was an agnostic because he didn't belong to any religion and yet he gave the possibility of the existence of God. He was an agnostic because to him, the various religions that was in existence back then within his era, was nonsensical. So therefor he submitted his own view of God, and was able to persuade others to follow in his view. But, one must not look over the fact that the Abrahamic religions submits the explanation of God through Abraham's original perspective of life and the cosmos. Back then the followers of Abraham adopted his views because his views made more sense philosophically, then the dieties which Abraham whished to overthrow.

Presently, we know more about how the world works and because we do, a careful look at Abraham's explanation of the universe and the life will reveal that it's primarily based on old age myths and superstitions.

So to summarize, I'm pointing out that Abraham's view of God was suitable for his time, but it does not fit in today's society because we know more about the world, then humans did in the past generations.

However, I do want to point out that if it wasn't for Abraham, many of us today would still be worshipping physical idols and the progression of philosophical ideas and the laws of science would have been considerably slower than it is today.

Feel free to respond back Hannah. I enjoy the conversation.